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Suck On This

Proponents of the proposed Great Engineering Feat of Carbon Capture and Storage, portray their heroic efforts to suck Carbon Dioxide out of industrial processes, and even out of the sky itself, as the last chance to save us from ourselves and our untidy emissions.

Thing is, even if all the extra Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere from the last 150 years of human Fossil Fuel burning activities could be swallowed down into rocks, filters, artificial trees, real trees and caves, all at once, when we have invented and fully developed the Geoengineering Technology for it, we would still have a globally warmed world, and still plenty of excess Carbon Dioxide in the Oceans and Land, which can still make its way out into the Atmosphere…

The enduring challenge is that we must curtail and rein in Carbon Dioxide emissions, as soon as possible, starting now. We cannot carry on burning and wait for Carbon-sucking technological marvels, that may never materialise, as Ken Caldeira and his research colleague Long Cao demonstrate :-

“Atmospheric carbon dioxide removal: long-term consequences and commitment : Long Cao and Ken Caldeira : [Department of Global Ecology, Carnegie Institution, Stanford, CA, USA] : Environ. Res. Lett. 5 (April-June 2010) 024011 : doi:10.1088/1748-9326/5/2/024011”

“Abstract. Carbon capture from ambient air has been proposed as a mitigation strategy to counteract anthropogenic climate change. We use an Earth system model to investigate the response of the coupled climate–carbon system to an instantaneous removal of all anthropogenic CO2 [Carbon Dioxide] from the atmosphere. In our extreme and idealized simulations, anthropogenic CO2 emissions are halted and all anthropogenic CO2 is removed from the atmosphere at year 2050 under the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] A2 CO2 emission scenario when the model-simulated atmospheric CO2 reaches 511 ppm [parts per million] and surface temperature reaches 1.8 degrees C [Celsius] above the pre-industrial level. In our simulations a one-time removal of all anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere reduces surface air temperature by 0.8 degrees C within a few years, but 1 degree C surface warming above pre-industrial levels lasts for several centuries. In other words, a one-time removal of 100% excess CO2 from the atmosphere offsets less than 50% of the warming experienced at the time of removal. To maintain atmospheric CO2 and temperature at low levels, not only does anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere need to be removed, but anthropogenic CO2 stored in the ocean and land needs to be removed as well when it outgasses to the atmosphere. In our simulation to maintain atmospheric CO2 concentrations at pre-industrial levels for centuries, an additional amount of CO2 equal to the original CO2 captured would need to be removed over the subsequent 80 years.”

“…4. Discussion and conclusions : Direct removal of large amounts of anthropogenic CO2 [Carbon Dioxide] from the atmosphere could bring atmospheric temperature to lower levels in a short period, but the removal deployment needs to be continued to maintain atmospheric CO2 and temperature [anomaly] at low levels. To maintain atmospheric CO2 concentrations at pre-industrial levels for centuries, ultimately an amount of CO2 approaching the total cumulative amount of anthropogenic CO2 emissions would need to be removed from the atmosphere.”

“Here we simulated idealized and extreme scenarios of atmospheric CO2 removal to illustrate feedbacks and responses of the coupled climate–carbon cycle system to reduced burden of atmospheric CO2. We have made no attempt to consider the technological and economical feasibility of this extreme CO2 removal scenario. There are no known relevant physical limits to CO2 removal from the atmosphere, but industrialized CO2 removal is thought to cost more than the capture and storage of an equivalent amount of carbon from power plants using conventional techniques (IPCC 2005 : “Special Report on Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage” ed B Metz, O Davidson, H de Coninck, M Loos and L Meyer (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press) 431 pp). We do not present our scenarios as a plausible prediction of the future but rather use them to illustrate fundamental climate and carbon cycle responses that would come into play at any scale of deployment.”

“Our simulations show that in addition to the halt of CO2 emission, a one-time removal of all anthropogenic CO2 from the atmosphere at the middle of this century could reduce surface warming from a peak value of 1.8 degrees C to 1 degree C within a few years, but the 1 degree C warming above the pre-industrial level would persist for a few centuries. This temperature response is a result of both CO2 outgassing from the ocean and land and thermal inertia of the ocean. This characteristic of temperature response, i.e., rapidly fast cooling followed by a much slower cooling, is consistent with a recent study that used an atmosphere–ocean general circulation model to investigate temperature response to an instantaneous return of pre-industrial forcing (Held et al 2010 : Held I, Winton M, Takahashi K, Delworth T L, Zeng F and Vallis G K 2010 “Probing the fast and slow components of global warming by returning abruptly to pre-industrial forcing” J. Clim. 23 2418–27 ). Additional simulations show that if atmospheric CO2 was restored to 350 ppm for one time, a surface warming of 1.2 degrees C would last for several centuries. To maintain atmospheric CO2 and surface temperature at low levels, continued efforts are needed to remove not only anthropogenic CO2 that is in the atmosphere, but anthropogenic CO2 that had been previously taken up by the ocean and land, which would then release to the atmosphere in response to atmospheric CO2 removal.”

2 replies on “Suck On This”

Does it HAVE to be _either_ decarbonisation _or_ CO2 sequestration? If we were able to magically end all anthropogenic CO2 emissions today, we would still need to sequester CO2, because of feedbacks.

Thought experiment: two persons living today, both with identical, optimal CO2 emissions (we cannot avoid CO2 footprint living in today’s economy). One plants ecologically and socially sensitive trees sufficient to absorb her CO2. The other does not. Who is doing the right thing?



I think the key issue is the lead time, the wasted time, before the proposed Carbon Capture and Storage technologies are developed and deployed.

Currently, there are a couple of dozen genuine Carbon Capture and Storage CCS projects in “demonstration”. The rest are just doing “capture” and not “storage” :-

What do I mean by “genuine” ? Those CCS projects that are not motivated by Enhanced Oil Recovery (which is where the idea for using oil well sequestration more generally for Carbon Dioxide storage came from).

These couple of dozen proper CCS projects are not scaling up and not being quickly replicated. How long will it take to get this widescaled ? The IPCC Fourth Assessment Report reckons (Working Group 3, Chapter 4 “Energy Supply”) that not much contribution to mitigation from CCS will be actuated before 2030 :-

If we carry on burning imagining that CCS will come along from the science labs to save us from the warming load from our continued high emissions, then we are very much mistaken :-

Carbon soaks like planting trees are a “technology” that we can be using “off-the-shelf” now, immediately, and it really ought to be promoted, for a number of sound reasons, and it is, by people like Wangari Maathai :-

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