It’s a goldmine for me
Keep up the good work..

And, yes, you do a good job with delivering your conclusions too ::))

Cheers.
Yoron.

Where did it all go so wrong, she thought? I have the Holy Hockey Stick and the consensus of the preisthood. These people should have listened to me.

Alas, our heroine has had her head stuck so far up her GSM, she has not seen that the scientific method (the bane of all who seek the Holy Grail of Cap-and-Trade) has actually laid low the flawed and secretive datasets. The masses, now educated with how science is SUPPOSED to work, has pulled back the veil and seen that AGW is little more than a secular form of televangelism.

Undaunted, she shakes the dust from her shoes and departs in search of more ignorant environs where the natives can be duped into a medieval lifestyle with stories of pestilence, drought, rising seas, and deadly storms brought on by CO2, the evil life-giving pollutant.

Despite the sometimes disparaging exchanges, we wave goodbye and wish her well as we know she will need it. She is not a bad girl, just naive. When the mote is finally removed from her eye and she returns to us enlightened from her sojourn, there will be much rejoicing.

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HERE ENDETH THE SERMON/HOMILY/LESSON. ]

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : NOPE, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. PLEASE PROVIDE A RESUME CURRICULUM VITAE. ]

and I have no doubt that AGW is p*ppyc**k

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : REALLY ? AND WHAT'S YOUR PROOF ? (BY THE WAY, I'VE LEARNED TO ASK THAT QUESTION "WHERE'S YOUR PROOF" FROM COMMENTATORS HERE ON THIS WEB LOG) ]

so does that make me anti science?

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : PLEASE PROVIDE SOME FORM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIM THAT YOU ARE PRO SCIENCE. ]

Answer these questions please and please do so without referring me to some other dubious internet source.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : THESE DAYS, SCIENCE IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE WEB-BASED, AND SO ALL THE RESEARCH PAPERS, A LOT OF THE RAW DATA AND MOST OF THE EXPERT OPINION IS TO BE FOUND ON THE INTERNET. TELL ME WHY YOU THINK THE SOURCES I PROVIDE ARE DODGY. WHAT MAKES YOUR POINT OF VIEW ACCURATE ? ]

The facts that I will relate are irrefutable and will be verified by any geologist in the world without reservation. Climate Change is an entirely natural and long duration process.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : INDEED, CLIMATE CHANGES AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING. IT'S RECORDED IN THE OLDEST HUMAN DOCUMENTS AS HISTORICAL FACT. READ THE BIBLE. THERE ARE MANY MENTIONS OF DROUGHT AND FLOODS AND FAMINES THEREIN. HOWEVER, THE GLOBAL WARMING THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN THE LAST FEW DECADES IS (I'M GOING TO USE THAT SACRED, MUCH-MALIGNED, MUCH-SCORNED WORD THAT ALL THE CLIMATE CHANGE SCEPTICS HATE) UNPRECEDENTED, AND COULD LEAD TO RAPID AND IRREVERSIBLE CHANGES IN THE CONDITIONS OF THE BIOSPHERE UNLESS CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS (IN PARTICULAR) ARE CONTROLLED. ]

The evidence for this is in the history of glaciation that is all around us. There have been three major periods of glaciation (Tahoe, Tenaya, and Tioga) over the last 200,000 years. The last ended approximately 10,000 years ago and we are now in what is called an interglacial warming trend.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : YES, WE ARE IN AN INTER-GLACIAL PERIOD. HOWEVER, FROM THE TIME OF THE "HOLOCENE OPTIMUM" UNTIL QUITE RECENTLY IN THE MID 1800'S, THE TEMPERATURES ON EARTH WERE STEADILY FALLING, AS DEPICTED IN THIS FAMOUS AND ACCURATELY PORTRAYED DIAGRAM :-

SINCE THE MID 1800'S, THE TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN RISING SHARPLY. ]

So please educate me a poor science “denier” who happens to be a scientist.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : SARCASM ! HOW FUNNY ! ]

How and why did these periods of glaciation begin and end?

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : OF COURSE, BEING A SCIENTIST, YOU MUST KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, AND I DON'T NEED TO ANSWER YOU. ]

Did man somehow transport himself and his machines back in time so he could pump billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere to cause this terrible state of affairs?

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : DON'T BE SILLY ! TIME ON FLOWS IN REVERSE IN THE VERY MICRO-WORLD OF SUB-ATOMIC SPACES. ]

Or maybe, just maybe it really is a natural state of affairs that man has no effect on.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : UNTIL ABOUT 150 YEAR AGO, YES, CLIMATE CHANGE WAS AN ENTIRELY NATURAL EVENT. SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN DIGGING CARBON OUT OF THE GROUND AND BURNING IT INTO THE SKY. THIS HAS CAUSED ROUGHLY 0.7 TO 0.8 DEGREES CELSIUS OF GLOBAL WARMING. ]

We all know that man has a terrible effect on local environments. He destroys rainforests, he pollutes waterways, he does all manner of horrible things that now will continue because Al Gore and his cronies are stealing the money that could otherwise be used to prevent these environmental outrages.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : YOU DO REALISE THAT IF WE STOP BURNING COAL TO MAKE ELECTRICITY THAT WE WILL SOLVE BOTH THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS AND THE GLOBAL WARMING PROBLEM ? AND THAT IF THE OIL AND GAS COMPANIES GO OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THE WORLD COMMITS TO TOTAL ENERGY REVIVAL BASED ON RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT WE WILL STOP ALL THE POISONOUS OIL SPILLS AND TOXIC AIR AND ASTHMA AND OH SO MANY NASTY PETROCHEMICAL-CAUSED DISEASES ? SOLVING THE CARBON PROBLEM WILL SOLVE LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION PROBLEMS AS WELL. I THINK AL GORE SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR HIS REVOLUTIONARY VISIONARY THINKING ! AND I THINK YOU SHOULD PRAISE HIM TOO ! ]

One other hole in your theory is the simple fact that nowhere in any of the legislation that is pending is the elimination of pollution a requirement. No, instead it is merely requiring the wealthy nations to pay more for the priviledge of polluting.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : I BELIEVE THAT A GLOBAL AND ABSOLUTE CAP ON CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS IS THE WAY FORWARD. I DO NOT THINK THAT A MARKET IN CARBON WILL ACHIEVE ANYTHING. YOU ARE WRONG IN ASSUMING THAT I SUPPORT CAP-AND-TRADE WHICH I THINK WOULD BE AT THE VERY BEST MILDLY UNHELPFUL. ]

Your intellectual dishonesty

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : TAKE THAT UNFAIR AND UNFOUNDED ACCUSATION BACK RIGHT THIS MINUTE AND GO WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP ! ]

is exposed for the world to see based on your shrill attacks against those who are “deniers” (trying to equate us with holocaust deniers no doubt) and the complete refusal to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe there is a real problem brewing.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : THERE ARE TWO MAIN REAL PROBLEMS : ONE IS THE INABILITY OF SCIENTISTS TO COMMUNICATE THE SCIENCE SIMPLY AND CLEARLY. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THAT THE MEDIA ARE INCAPABLE OF COMMUNICATING THE SCIENCE CLEARLY AND ACCURATELY. ]

I suggest that you get out of this science “blogging” as you are clearly not capable of carrying on a legitimate conversation;

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : THAT'S A BIT RICH COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHOSE METHOD OF "CONVERSATION" IS TO BE RUDE. TAKE THAT ACCUSATION BACK ! ]

and I predict that when Gore and all of the IPCC people are indicted on fraud charges and sued through Civil Rico lawsuits you will still be championing their cause.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : THE MEEK AND RIGHTEOUS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH. OF COURSE AL GORE WON'T BE GOING TO COURT ON FRAUD CHARGES, BECAUSE HE'S NOT DEFRAUDING ANYONE ! WHAT A RIDICULOUS SUGGESTION ! ]

Good luck, you are going to need it!

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : DO I NEED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT ? ]

Excerpt: Despite the mistakes, Mann says the core argument — that the Earth is warming, humans are at least partly responsible, and disaster may await unless action is taken — remains intact.

http://www.usatoday.com/NEWS/usaedition/2010-03-11-1Awarming11_CV_U.htm?csp=34

“…humans are at least partly responsible…” — an expert’s opinion and that is all the IPCC has in its report but there’s no empirical evidence stating man-induced CO2 is the driver of climate change, none, can’t find and won’t find it anywhere, there’s no fingerprint, there’s no HotSpot.

AGW is a scam — whoever promote AGW after knowing all the facts is a scammer!

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : WHEN MICHAEL MANN SAYS "Nothing has fundamentally changed", AS REPORTED IN THAT NEWS ITEM, HE MEANS THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS STILL HAPPENING AND THAT THE SCIENCE OF GLOBAL WARMING STILL STANDS. PLEASE, IN FUTURE, CONVEY THE CORRECT MEANING OF WHAT MICHAEL MANN IS SAYING. HE IS NOT SCAMMING AND THE SCIENCE OF ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT A SCAM. NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST. ]

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : WHY SHOULD ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS BE FORCED TO WASTE THEIR TIME ANSWERING CHALLENGES FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ? IT'S NOT LIKE THE CLIMATE CHANGE "SCEPTICS" WILL SUDDENLY CHANGE THEIR MINDS. THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH FOR DECADES AND THEY STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR ACCEPT THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH OF THE FACTS OF GLOBAL WARMING. I CALL THAT A FAILURE OF INTELLIGENCE. LET'S SEE : SHOULD A TOP LAWYER LISTEN TO YOUR CRITICISM OF HIS HANDLING OF A CASE IN COURT ? WOULD YOU PRESUME, WOULD YOU DARE TO KNOW THAT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN HE DOES ? OF COURSE NOT ! SO WHY DO GLOBAL WARMING DENIERS THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THE DATA ? ]

Why is it failing?

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : GLOBAL WARMING SCIENCE IS NOT FAILING. IN FACT, IT IS SUCCEEDING. THE SIGNAL HAS EMERGED FROM THE NOISE AND WE CAN NOW SAY WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT THE EARTH IS WARMING AND THAT IT IS DUE TO THE WARMING EFFECTS OF ACCUMULATING MANKIND-SOURCED GREENHOUSE GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE. WHY DON'T YOU ADMIT THAT ? ]

Weak data andmodels, a clearly self-serving agenda among the political class and clear evidence that a large group around the IPCC share a leftwing outlook on most eco-extreme topics.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : WHY DO YOU ASSUME THAT GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS AND THE IPCC ARE LEFT WING ? WHAT IS SO SOCIALIST ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING SCIENCE EXACTLY ? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ARE POLITICAL, AND THAT THEY ARE LIBERAL/LEFT WING ? IS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY GOING TO DRIVE US TO COMMUNIST REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH TO THE POOREST ? (AND ACTUALLY, WHAT WOULD BE SO BAD ABOUT THE RICH GIVING AWAY SOME OF THEIR WEALTH TO THE POOR ? IT'S WHAT JESUS RECOMMENDED.) ]

If you polled the NY Times they would tell you they are “objective” but millions of others who see the bias the statement is clearly false.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : I PREFER IT WHEN THE MEDIA SHOW A CLEAR SLANT TOWARDS JUSTICE AND TRUTH, MYSELF. ]

The same goes with the IPCC supporters.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : I SUPPORT THE IPCC BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. YES, I'M BIASED. BIASED TOWARDS THE TRUTH. ]

It isn’t about science from the beginning, it’s about finding excuses to establish a more mediated political authority.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU DON'T NEED TO INVENT SOME GIANT GLOBAL POLITICAL CONSPIRACY IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN WHY ALL THE REAL SCIENTISTS AGREE THAT THE EARTH IS WARMING UP. IT'S NOT ABOUT CONTROLLING PEOPLE, IT'S ABOUT CONTROLLING CARBON EMISSIONS. NOT THE SAME THING. ]

Climategate helped expose the fraud

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE IS NOT A FRAUD, AND CLIMATEGATE HAS EXPOSED NOTHING BUT RIDICULOUS AND UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS. ]

but the numbers have been moving back to moderate positions as American’s in particular can see what a socialist state is beginning to look like.

[ QUESTION FROM JOABBESS.COM : WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOCIALISM ? "FROM EACH ACCORDING TO ABILITY; TO EACH ACCORDING TO NEED." THAT'S A FINE AMBITION ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD ALL CARE FOR EACH OTHER AND PROVIDE FOR THOSE NOT ABLE TO LOOK AFTER THEMSELVES. I'M SURE MOST CONSERVATIVES WOULD AGREE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AFTER THE POOR, THE SICK, THE OLD, OUR MOTHERS, OUR CHILDREN. ]

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU TYPE IT. PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR RESUME CURRICULUM VITAE AND LINKS TO SOME OF YOUR PUBLISHED RESEARCH. ]

You could not be more wrong.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE RIGHT. ]

Please show your proof of man made global warming, proof, not allegations.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : AS YOU WELL KNOW, IF YOU ARE TRULY A SCIENTIST, MOST OF SCIENCE DOES NOT PROVIDE PROOF, RATHER A CURRENCY OF ESTABLISHED FACTS, SOME REAL KNOWLEDGE AND MODELS OF THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS, THAT ARE CONSTANTLY OPEN TO REVISION. THE PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING IS IN THE UNFOLDING OF THE EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL. ]

If one studies the Earth’s climatological history, AGW does not pass the smell test.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : YOUR ARGUMENT STINKS, TO BE HONEST. ]

As you stated, early ignorant man blamed unwanted outcomes on sins. Once we blamed bad weather on man’s iniquities. Now storms and drought have been replaced by climate changes as proof of our evil ways, amongst the unlearned.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : IN HIS CHALLENGE TO THE HEBREW PEOPLE TO "CHOOSE LIFE", MOSES OFFERED THE PROSPECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND ECOLOGICAL DOOM FOR THOSE THAT ABANDONED THE FAITH OF YAHWEH, THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD. CHECK OUT DEUTERONOMY 28. I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP. THERE REALLY IS A PRICE TO PAY FOR ECOLOGICAL MISMANAGEMENT. ]

Join the rest of us in the 21st century and shed your ignorance.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : SHED YOUR DENIAL AND COME TO THE FOUNTAIN OF ALL TRUTH IN THE HALLS OF CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE. ]

I am anxiously awaiting your proof of AGW!

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM : WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REMAIN FRUSTRATED. I CANNOT PROVE TO YOU THAT THE SUN WILL RISE TOMORROW, BUT IT HAS EVERY OTHER DAY OF MY LIFE, SO I GUESS IT WILL. ]

Morano “is not a scientist, he is a social activist.”

YES, he is an activist, not a scientist…just like most of the global warming alarmists!

But he’s one heck of a reporter, unlike the head-in-the-sands MSM.

Dr. John R. Christy, a lead author on the IPCC, Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama–Huntsville: “Our ignorance about the climate system is enormous, and policy makers need to know that. This is an extremely complex system, and thinking we can control it is hubris.”