Comments on: How You Were Taken In : The Manufacture of Doubt http://www.joabbess.com/2010/03/09/how-you-were-taken-in-the-manufacture-of-doubt/ Energy Change for Climate Control Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:58:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: klem http://www.joabbess.com/2010/03/09/how-you-were-taken-in-the-manufacture-of-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-580 klem Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:43:24 +0000 http://www.joabbess.com/?p=4552#comment-580 Read this article from the BBC. The EU is beginning to build a carbon based protectionist case against China and any other exporter. This is just as predicted by the skeptics. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8557461.stm Surely people, you can't seriously want the US involved in this kind of unproductive bureaucratic cr@p. And over the years, Cap & trade will be spread out to every individual, so that we all must engage in carbon trading as part of our normal lives. And the scientific basis for it all is weak. <B>[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SCIENCE AND ECONOMICS. THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE SHOWS THE EVIDENCE THAT THE EARTH IS WARMING AND HABITATS AND CONDITIONS ARE ALTERING, ACCENTUATING THE WARMING EFFECTS. THAT IS SCIENCE AND IS ENTIRELY FACTUAL. CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE IS STRONG AND I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU LOOK INTO IT. THE NOTION THAT PRICING CARBON IN A MARKET FRAMEWORK WITH DICTATED QUOTA RESTRICTIONS (CALLED CAP-AND-TRADE) WILL SOMEHOW REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS IS ENTIRELY HYPOTHETICAL AND NOT BASED ON ANY SOUND EVIDENCE FROM THE ECONOMIC FACTS. ECONOMIC POLICY IS NOT SCIENCE. LIKE YOU, I AM A SCEPTIC ABOUT ECONOMIC POLICY. UNLIKE YOU, I TRUST CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE. THERE IS A VERY STRONG CASE FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND REDUCTION OF CARBON IN THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN OF TRADED PRODUCTS. THERE IS NO CASE AT ALL FOR PRICING CARBON. IT WILL MERELY CREATE INFLATION, IN MY VIEW, AND WILL NOT NECESSARILY CONTROL CARBON EMISSIONS. ]</B> Read this article from the BBC. The EU is beginning to build a carbon based protectionist case against China and any other exporter. This is just as predicted by the skeptics.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8557461.stm

Surely people, you can’t seriously want the US involved in this kind of unproductive bureaucratic cr@p. And over the years, Cap & trade will be spread out to every individual, so that we all must engage in carbon trading as part of our normal lives. And the scientific basis for it all is weak.

[ NOTE FROM JOABBESS.COM

IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SCIENCE AND ECONOMICS.

THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE SHOWS THE EVIDENCE THAT THE EARTH IS WARMING AND HABITATS AND CONDITIONS ARE ALTERING, ACCENTUATING THE WARMING EFFECTS. THAT IS SCIENCE AND IS ENTIRELY FACTUAL.

CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE IS STRONG AND I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU LOOK INTO IT.

THE NOTION THAT PRICING CARBON IN A MARKET FRAMEWORK WITH DICTATED QUOTA RESTRICTIONS (CALLED CAP-AND-TRADE) WILL SOMEHOW REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS IS ENTIRELY HYPOTHETICAL AND NOT BASED ON ANY SOUND EVIDENCE FROM THE ECONOMIC FACTS. ECONOMIC POLICY IS NOT SCIENCE.

LIKE YOU, I AM A SCEPTIC ABOUT ECONOMIC POLICY.

UNLIKE YOU, I TRUST CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE.

THERE IS A VERY STRONG CASE FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND REDUCTION OF CARBON IN THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN OF TRADED PRODUCTS.

THERE IS NO CASE AT ALL FOR PRICING CARBON. IT WILL MERELY CREATE INFLATION, IN MY VIEW, AND WILL NOT NECESSARILY CONTROL CARBON EMISSIONS. ]

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