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		<title>By: Joe Hepperle</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-77150</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hepperle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ms. Abbess: 
A friend referred me to your page here, claiming it was a classic example of the Ad Hominem debate technique. The definition given was that, &quot;If you can&#039;t discredit the facts, then try to discredit the man&quot;. Thank you for posting this example. This has helped tremendously in my further understanding of the Ad Hominem attack technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ms. Abbess:<br />
A friend referred me to your page here, claiming it was a classic example of the Ad Hominem debate technique. The definition given was that, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t discredit the facts, then try to discredit the man&#8221;. Thank you for posting this example. This has helped tremendously in my further understanding of the Ad Hominem attack technique.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-33034</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course that small fact that there is no such thing as &quot;Global Warming science&quot; makes your credibility as a scientist rather plain for all to see, don&#039;t you think?

&lt;B&gt;[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : I KNOW A NUMBER OF CLIMATE SCIENTISTS THAT WOULD SAY THEIR WORK IS VALID. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THAT ? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ? ]&lt;/B&gt;

Quite simply the climate of the earth has always been in flux and we are yet to see any credible science that proves that mankind has had any influence at all on the change that is being observed now. The CO2 theory, based on manipulated data and computer models, is not conclusive evidence of any kind and questionable to even be considered as science!

&lt;B&gt;[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : INDEED, THE EARTH&#039;S CLIMATE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT FLUX SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND THE THERMOSTATIC CONTROL HAS BEEN MOSTLY CARBON DIOXIDE FLUCTUATIONS, THE PRECESSION OF THE EARTH&#039;S AXIS, THE IRREGULARITY OF ITS ORBIT, THE GROWTH OF OXYGEN-EMITING LIFE, THE UPSURGE IN OXYGEN-BREATHING MULTICELLULAR LIFE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WATER CYCLE, AND THE EMERGENCE OF THE GEOLOGICAL CARBON CYCLE. ]&lt;/B&gt;

However we do see an HUGE political move powered by taxation! This is NOT a theory and does NOT take a scientist to spot. 

Are you as a scientist really telling us that if we pay more tax the climate will stop changing???

&lt;B&gt;[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : IN FACT I SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I SAY THAT PAYING A CARBON TAX WILL NOT PREVENT CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSONS, AS IT IS NOT A POSITIVE INCENTIVE TO BUILD UP CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES. ]&lt;/B&gt;

This is what this whole debate comes down to in the end, money and power. Science has nothing to do with it!

&lt;B&gt;[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : IT WOULD BE BEST IF SCIENCE HAD THE LARGEST VOICE AND NOT ECONOMIC THEORIES - SUCH AS THE &quot;FREE MARKET&quot;, &quot;CUTTING THE DEFICIT&quot; AND &quot;CUTTING RED TAPE&quot;. ]&lt;/B&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course that small fact that there is no such thing as &#8220;Global Warming science&#8221; makes your credibility as a scientist rather plain for all to see, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p><b>[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : I KNOW A NUMBER OF CLIMATE SCIENTISTS THAT WOULD SAY THEIR WORK IS VALID. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THAT ? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ? ]</b></p>
<p>Quite simply the climate of the earth has always been in flux and we are yet to see any credible science that proves that mankind has had any influence at all on the change that is being observed now. The CO2 theory, based on manipulated data and computer models, is not conclusive evidence of any kind and questionable to even be considered as science!</p>
<p><b>[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : INDEED, THE EARTH'S CLIMATE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT FLUX SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND THE THERMOSTATIC CONTROL HAS BEEN MOSTLY CARBON DIOXIDE FLUCTUATIONS, THE PRECESSION OF THE EARTH'S AXIS, THE IRREGULARITY OF ITS ORBIT, THE GROWTH OF OXYGEN-EMITING LIFE, THE UPSURGE IN OXYGEN-BREATHING MULTICELLULAR LIFE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WATER CYCLE, AND THE EMERGENCE OF THE GEOLOGICAL CARBON CYCLE. ]</b></p>
<p>However we do see an HUGE political move powered by taxation! This is NOT a theory and does NOT take a scientist to spot. </p>
<p>Are you as a scientist really telling us that if we pay more tax the climate will stop changing???</p>
<p><b>[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : IN FACT I SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I SAY THAT PAYING A CARBON TAX WILL NOT PREVENT CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSONS, AS IT IS NOT A POSITIVE INCENTIVE TO BUILD UP CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES. ]</b></p>
<p>This is what this whole debate comes down to in the end, money and power. Science has nothing to do with it!</p>
<p><b>[ COMMENT FROM JOABBESS.COM : IT WOULD BE BEST IF SCIENCE HAD THE LARGEST VOICE AND NOT ECONOMIC THEORIES - SUCH AS THE "FREE MARKET", "CUTTING THE DEFICIT" AND "CUTTING RED TAPE". ]</b></p>
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		<title>By: albabe</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-28592</link>
		<dc:creator>albabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Ted Taylor

Now we know exactly who this arsewipe Delingpole appeals to.  The usual disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, factually impaired simpletons who would much rather have some mindless Talking Point to spout around the water-cooler than have an actual Scientific Opinion... They have no involvement in any Science at all... except the Science of Stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Ted Taylor</p>
<p>Now we know exactly who this arsewipe Delingpole appeals to.  The usual disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, factually impaired simpletons who would much rather have some mindless Talking Point to spout around the water-cooler than have an actual Scientific Opinion&#8230; They have no involvement in any Science at all&#8230; except the Science of Stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cowboy Online</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-14422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cowboy Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question for you to ponder Jo.

Q. Are there any scientists, with directly relevant scientific backgrounds, who are disputing the man made element of climate change?

From what I&#039;ve seen of the AGW zealots, an educational background in science is not required, and is often discarded in a faith in AGW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question for you to ponder Jo.</p>
<p>Q. Are there any scientists, with directly relevant scientific backgrounds, who are disputing the man made element of climate change?</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen of the AGW zealots, an educational background in science is not required, and is often discarded in a faith in AGW.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Maurizio</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-2199</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto Maurizio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delingpole is a ridiculous pompous idiot that knows nothing about science. He&#039;d be better off spending his time getting an education in science than wasteing his time emptying the contents of his bowels in the Telegraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delingpole is a ridiculous pompous idiot that knows nothing about science. He&#8217;d be better off spending his time getting an education in science than wasteing his time emptying the contents of his bowels in the Telegraph.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are an idiot.

I&#039;m with Delingpole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an idiot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Delingpole.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete Lee - one sane voice against the madness.  As you say, why are these people always so rude and angry?  Could it be that they envy those of us who have science degrees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete Lee &#8211; one sane voice against the madness.  As you say, why are these people always so rude and angry?  Could it be that they envy those of us who have science degrees?</p>
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		<title>By: Squalor and Genamum</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Squalor and Genamum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goreflakes keep falling on my head.
But that doesn&#039;t mean the global warming meme is dead!
Denying works for me! So-
I&#039;m gonna simply change the game by reframing
reality. 
you see - 
post normal science is a great consensus - 
a mystery - the wizardry of false pretenses.

Goreflakes keep falling on my head.
But that doesn&#039;t mean the climate funding cow is dead!
Everyone agrees 
on
the need to investigate the whole situation.
New ministries!

Nothing&#039;s worrying me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goreflakes keep falling on my head.<br />
But that doesn&#8217;t mean the global warming meme is dead!<br />
Denying works for me! So-<br />
I&#8217;m gonna simply change the game by reframing<br />
reality.<br />
you see &#8211;<br />
post normal science is a great consensus &#8211;<br />
a mystery &#8211; the wizardry of false pretenses.</p>
<p>Goreflakes keep falling on my head.<br />
But that doesn&#8217;t mean the climate funding cow is dead!<br />
Everyone agrees<br />
on<br />
the need to investigate the whole situation.<br />
New ministries!</p>
<p>Nothing&#8217;s worrying me.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been struck by the rudeness and vitriol which the deniers have attacked you. I too have a science degree and I find the evidence for climate change compelling.Having one does not mean you are better but it given Delingbore&#039;s interest you would think he may try and undertake one. I am sure he wouldn&#039;t stop talking about it as he does the WW2 as if he is the only person who knows.

I am unclear about the attack on your degree- i.e. you are being elitist. If I were writing about Hitler I would not expect to be as informed as some one who did not go to Uni .

However Delingbore rarely quotes science. If he did he may have a better case. 

Its typical of his type  to attack with vitriol and then plead hurt when its done to them. He can dish it but he can&#039;t take it.

At heart the evidence for climate change is statistical rather than physical however and as such I suggest Delingsore ( or however you spell the idiot&#039;s name) and his ilk go back to school and redo their stats module in GCSE.

So there you have it Jo 

James Delingbore/ sore- thank me when you use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been struck by the rudeness and vitriol which the deniers have attacked you. I too have a science degree and I find the evidence for climate change compelling.Having one does not mean you are better but it given Delingbore&#8217;s interest you would think he may try and undertake one. I am sure he wouldn&#8217;t stop talking about it as he does the WW2 as if he is the only person who knows.</p>
<p>I am unclear about the attack on your degree- i.e. you are being elitist. If I were writing about Hitler I would not expect to be as informed as some one who did not go to Uni .</p>
<p>However Delingbore rarely quotes science. If he did he may have a better case. </p>
<p>Its typical of his type  to attack with vitriol and then plead hurt when its done to them. He can dish it but he can&#8217;t take it.</p>
<p>At heart the evidence for climate change is statistical rather than physical however and as such I suggest Delingsore ( or however you spell the idiot&#8217;s name) and his ilk go back to school and redo their stats module in GCSE.</p>
<p>So there you have it Jo </p>
<p>James Delingbore/ sore- thank me when you use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.joabbess.com/2009/09/24/letter-to-james-delingpole/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone above me has said what needed to be, except that your position is frankly laughable. 

I hope you can continue to feel intellectually superior to individuals without a degree. 

Perhaps it&#039;s a good thing then that you seem to spend most of your time with the other green fruity loops. Otherwise you might find your position less tenable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone above me has said what needed to be, except that your position is frankly laughable. </p>
<p>I hope you can continue to feel intellectually superior to individuals without a degree. </p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a good thing then that you seem to spend most of your time with the other green fruity loops. Otherwise you might find your position less tenable.</p>
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